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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Goodness, you are fast, Hrvoje! Thank you for the coruscating conversation, Hrvoje, as well as for your own Apocaloptimistic efforts to defeat tyranny and stop democide! ✊🙏🙌

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Kinsey Service's avatar

Good stuff! An important piece Margaret is missing here is the trauma damage to the pathway between the right and left hemisphere, such as through the corpus callosum. Peter Levine's work on fight, flight and freeze trauma stored in the body. The right brain is connected to the body, the left is not. This is a critical piece, and why understanding previous trauma does not change the incomplete defensive and orienting responses post trauma in humans. Resolving trauma requires embodying work with the autonomic nervous system. Incomplete rage and fear patterns govern much of our modern behavior from traumas, often unrecognized early traumas, such as hospitalizations, falls, accidents, major childhood illnesses, early developmental trauma, war, natural disasters--the list is long.

https://es-la.facebook.com/MissMacMindful/videos/natures-lessons-in-healing-trauma-an-introduction-to-somatic-experiencing-with-d/2549585255371253/

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dave's avatar

Mussolini was a progressive (from The Doctrine of Fascism). The progress is to the eschaton. Utopia. Heaven. Communism.

ALL WATCHED OVER

BY MACHINES OF LOVING GRACE

I like to think (and

the sooner the better!)

of a cybernetic meadow

where mammals and computers

live together in mutually

programming harmony

like pure water

touching clear sky.

I like to think

(right now, please!)

of a cybernetic forest

filled with pines and electronics

where deer stroll peacefully

past computers

as if they were flowers

with spinning blossoms.

I like to think

(it has to be!)

of a cybernetic ecology

where we are free of our labors

and joined back to nature,

returned to our mammal

brothers and sisters,

and all watched over

by machines of loving grace.

Richard Brautigan, 1967 Caltech Poet Laureate

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Louise's avatar

Thank you awesome conversation thanks for sharing. sending u much love from Australia.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Aww, thank you for your touching words, Louise, and sending you much love back! You may appreciate the Down Under edition of my Recommendations Roundup I did a few years ago:

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/recommendations-roundup-2-down-under-41b

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Cindy Burton's avatar

Absolutely magnificent conversation! So much good stuff. 😁🌟💐

Insightful, honest, hopeful. So grateful that there are so many glorious humans here, at this point in the timeline. 💗

I like our chances more every day.

Build resilience.

Build community.

Grow food.

Stay strong.

Share love.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Thank you so much for your beautiful words, Cindy, and I'm grateful to know you are a fellow Apocaloptimistic member of our karass!

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/against-defeatism-the-apocaloptimist

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-my-karass

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Desiree Flores's avatar

Hermann Göring is probably the one Margaret meant for the quote. Great interview, exchange of thoughts and musings, thanks to both of you, Grüß Gott!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

That is exactly right, Desiree, and this is what I emailed Hrvoje afterward:

“As soon as I finished our interview, I realized the quote was by Hermann Göring, not Himmler, duh 😆”

Himmler felt wrong, but I think my brain filled that in because of the “H.”

Here is the quote for those who are interested:

“Why, of course, the people don’t *want* war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the *leaders* of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a parliament or a communist dictatorship.… Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

—Hermann Göring in conversation with Gustave Gilbert, Nuremberg Diary

You can find the quote card I designed here:

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/consequential-quotes-war

I need to create errata for this episode as I also realized 1948 couldn’t be right for “Rape of the Mind” as that would be a bit early for discussing the growing prevalence of television. I looked it up, and it’s 1956. Oops!

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Desiree Flores's avatar

''All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.” The first time I read that part, it totally threw me off due to the ease with which vile operations can be sold to the unsuspecting populace. If only this part of the quote was mandatory learning every week in high school, as that is the part that shows the workings of hypnosis after the fear has been properly inserted into the mind's eye via the eyes and ears of anybody. I wish you a lovely evening, kind regards, Grüß Gott!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

🎯🎯🎯

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Michael Ginsburg's avatar

Mistakes were NOT made!!!!!!

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Stephanie's avatar

This was so good, lovely interview!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Aww, delighted to hear you enjoyed it, Stephanie!

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Mercy Warren's avatar

Letter to a Tyrant was my introduction to Margaret Anna Alice. So phenomenal for the moment in time it was released and continues to resonate now. I like to re-read it often. I enjoyed your discussion with her.

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Geopolitics & Empire's avatar

i'm curious as to how you enjoyed the 90-minute discussion posted 30-minutes ago, lol!

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Mercy Warren's avatar

I commented before I finished it 😉 I maybe should have said...I'm enjoying rather than past tense.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Haha, glad you were enjoying it, Mercy!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Wow, you really have been a longtime reader, Mercy! Thank you so much. For those who are curious, here is the link to "Letter to a Tyrant":

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-a-tyrant

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Gabriel's avatar

Looking forward to this!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Thank you, Gabriel, and hugs to you 🤗

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Ronnie Rocket's avatar

A great discussion, Margaret, with Geopolitics and Empire. Very informative and very well-done.

Thank you.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Thank you so much, my dear Apocaloptimist sister Ronnie!

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Anthony S Burkett's avatar

I love the hat!!!~ Where can I get one?

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Thank you for asking, Anthony! This link will take you directly to the Mistakes Were NOT Made part of my RedBubble store:

https://mwnm.shop/

And here is the direct link for the hat:

https://www.redbubble.com/i/bucket-hat/Mistakes-Were-NOT-Made-by-margaretaalice/144040223.S29A5

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Fritz Freud's avatar

Just saw this from MAA today.

Great interview.

However there is one thing missing... the reason!

Why are they doing what they are doing?

Who is behind it?

And what is the Future THEY have in for us?

Because once you understand what they have in petto for us then you understand that this must be done on purpose.

And if it is done on purpose again what is the reason.

I write since the beginning that STARLINK and COVID are interconnected as is AI.

I write the AI WAR CHRONICLES everyone can read which are my Articles on this subject for the last 5 years.

The Danger is greater than ever before.

This is their final solution...

https://fritzfreud.substack.com/p/the-final-solution

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Anna Marie's avatar

Great conversation!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Thank you, Anna Marie, and glad you enjoyed it!

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Mark's avatar

Thanks for this wonderful conversation with Margaret Anna Alice. I'm not sure how I've not found her previously, especially back in 2020. Being that I was educated to a large degree about so many of the previous "mentacide" operations from the global kabbalah practicing elites. I knew deep within my soul that this was yet another psychological warfare and depopulation operation but it was (and still is) impossible to get anyone else to grasp what was in play then. The division tactics that have been employed by these Black Nobility families for literally thousands of years are cunning and baffling. Designed to divide and rule on every miniscule level the majority of the populaces just step right into their snare 🪤.

Back during the lockdowns and tyrannical operation people were held in complete fear of an unknown menace. Very similar to September 2001 where there's a script being repeated over and over and over 24/7 with images to burn into peoples brains.

I have for the most part been unsuccessful in making folks to see what was actually happening. Margaret Anna Alice has shared here, ways or dialogue to hopefully get friends and family to turn off their tell-lie-visions and radios to just look around them and be observant. I have subscribed to Margaret Anna Alice and her Substack. I hopefully can have success with her methods of getting someone to actually open their minds and eyes to view the larger picture and how that ties together with smaller puzzle pieces. Bless us all and goodness wins no matter what.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

What a profoundly insightful comment, Mark, and I am grateful to welcome you as a reader and fellow truth-seeker/teller!

I especially love “tell-lie-visions”—did you coin that? I’ve added it to my running glossary with credit to you.

You may appreciate these pieces in particular given what you’ve shared here:

• “Letter to the Menticided: A 12-Step Recovery Program”: https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-the-menticided-a-12-step

• “12 Communication Tips to Foster Meaningful Dialogue—Without Ruining Thanksgiving”: https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/12-communication-tips-to-foster-meaningful

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Mark's avatar

Margaret Anna Alice thank you for the kindness and interactions. It's refreshing to have actual dialogue with a human being.

I've started perusing your Substack and there's so many good sources you've compiled and I have only scratched the surface.

In regards to "tell-lie-vision" I honestly just spelled it out as I've many times said it to others. Example, turn off "your tell lie vision" and maybe your brain will function better.

Bless you and us all Margaret Anna Alice and thank you for the lift you've provided my soul.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Thank you, in kind, Mark, for your enthusiasm, passion, and empathy. It is a joy to connect with readers like yourself who truly care for people, truth, and freedom, and I’m grateful you find my work of value.

You may also find my Wake-up Toolkit handy, although I haven’t been able to update it since June 2024 as I evidently exceeded Substack’s memory limit for a post, so you’ll need to check my archive for subsequent posts:

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/wake-up-toolkit

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/archive

You probably saw watching “tell-lie-vision” is first in my list of symptoms for diagnosing menticide, and turning it off is the second step in my 12-step recovery program :-)

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Mark's avatar

I'm truly honored Margaret Anna Alice, I thank you for starting my week off on a very positive note ma'am.🙏

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

🙌

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Doc Malik's avatar

Great episode! well done both of you x

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Aww, thank you, brother! Love you, Ahmad 💓

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