Thorsten Pattberg discusses the struggle between East and West and how after having dominated for centuries, the West is now giving way as Asia returns to the forefront.
Thorsten and Hrvoje, please answer these questions for me, among many.
Neither of you mention any of the many Human Rights abuses of the CCP in your talk together and your published article by Frans that does nothing but praise the CCP as it seems you both do on Hrvoje’s program.
You two seem to believe the West censors more than the CCP does and you generally have greater political freedom in China than you do in the West, say Germany and the U.S., correct?
To my amazement if not amusement, it seems Hrvoje believes as you do—I had thought Hrvoje was at least a Libertarian. So you both are suffering from Double Standards Schizophrenic Morality and Bipolarity it seems.
Here is my recommended treatment for your mental illness:
Get on the social media and mass media in China if you can and tell the audience about the Crimes of Humanity the CCP has committed since 1949 and Mao through now to Xi. See if you can do that without being arrested.
You both do this in Western nations, right, you rightly go against the criminal governments with your talks and writings but neither of you have been thrown in jail for publishing or speaking what you want?
You can go to the links I gave you in that article I just posted on the article you posted by Frans
Do you agree with the CCP HK charges against the real “Dissident” Jimmy Lai that he was “colluding with foreign forces” and that he published “seditious material”? And that he should have been held in solitary confinement for nearly 5 years and should be found guilty and sentenced for the rest of his life to remain in prison in solitary confinement (which is considered by some to be torture after 15 days)?
It appears other HK dissidents were charged with "conspiracy to commit subversion" as was the Australian Gordon Ng who was sentenced to seven years in jail.
A Hong Kong man has been sentenced to 14 months in jail for wearing a T-shirt sporting the phrase "Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our times". He was also wearing a mask that read "FDNOL" - initials for another slogan, "Five demands, not one less".
So there is your “Free”, “Uncensored” East.
See you in 8 hours for my:
Free Friends Forum 40—J’ACCUSE Western Intellectuals Aka “Political Pilgrims” Exhibiting their Double Standards Moral Schizophrenia
You have NO Moral Integrity when you rightly and morally condemn the U.S. government’s Crimes Against Humanity then horribly and immorally aid and abet China’s CCP’s Crimes Against Humanity
You can make your case there as I will make mine, let the truth decide.
Jack Carney is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
Hrvoje, it seems you have not checked your guest's anti-freedom, pro-tyranny position as a “Western Dissident”? I refer to Thorsten’s article by Frans Vandenbosch he posted praising the CCP.
THE WORLD'S TOP DISSIDENTS (IN 2025). MOST HAIL FROM THE WEST APPARENTLY. Thorsten J. Pattberg, PhD Mar 26, 2025
“Whistle-Blowers, Dissidents, and Exiles Fighting for Free Speech”
By Frans Vandenbosch 方腾波 26.03.2025 The long list of refugees, people who have fled their country and living abroad in voluntary exile.
MOST OF THE WORLD’S TOP (and bottom as the case may be) DISSIDENTS IN 2025 HAIL FROM THE EAST--CHINA & HONG KONG.
So Hrvoje, I hope you will join Thorsten and Frans and Jeff--you are invited to our:
Free Friends Forum 40—J’ACCUSE Western Intellectuals Aka “Political Pilgrims” Exhibiting their Double Standards Moral Schizophrenia
You have NO Moral Integrity when you rightly and morally condemn the U.S. government’s Crimes Against Humanity then horribly and immorally aid and abet China’s CCP’s Crimes Against Humanity
You can tell us what you “Dissidents” will say when face to face with Sophie Luo about the imprisonment and torture of her husband, human rights lawyer, Ding Jiaxi still continuing in China?
Here is our Zoom and times, hope to see you—sorry for short notice
JOIN OUR FREE FRIENDS FORUM FOR A SPIRITED DISCUSSION
Saturday, April 19, 9PM (for South Pacific & Asia);
Sunday, April 20, 9AM (for U.S., S. America, Europe) —Note: New Zealand time
Jack Carney is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
Thorsten is the second person I've heard about whose Substack account has been frozen. This is rather concerning!
Thorsten and Hrvoje, please answer these questions for me, among many.
Neither of you mention any of the many Human Rights abuses of the CCP in your talk together and your published article by Frans that does nothing but praise the CCP as it seems you both do on Hrvoje’s program.
You two seem to believe the West censors more than the CCP does and you generally have greater political freedom in China than you do in the West, say Germany and the U.S., correct?
To my amazement if not amusement, it seems Hrvoje believes as you do—I had thought Hrvoje was at least a Libertarian. So you both are suffering from Double Standards Schizophrenic Morality and Bipolarity it seems.
Here is my recommended treatment for your mental illness:
Get on the social media and mass media in China if you can and tell the audience about the Crimes of Humanity the CCP has committed since 1949 and Mao through now to Xi. See if you can do that without being arrested.
You both do this in Western nations, right, you rightly go against the criminal governments with your talks and writings but neither of you have been thrown in jail for publishing or speaking what you want?
You can go to the links I gave you in that article I just posted on the article you posted by Frans
https://responsiblyfree.substack.com/p/free-friends-forum-40jaccuse-western
and add the huge amount of evidence I put here
https://responsiblyfree.substack.com/p/museum-of-crimes-against-humanity
And just start with those current 1,928 political prisoners in Hong Kong.
https://www.hkdc.us/political-prisoner-database
Do you agree with the CCP HK charges against the real “Dissident” Jimmy Lai that he was “colluding with foreign forces” and that he published “seditious material”? And that he should have been held in solitary confinement for nearly 5 years and should be found guilty and sentenced for the rest of his life to remain in prison in solitary confinement (which is considered by some to be torture after 15 days)?
It appears other HK dissidents were charged with "conspiracy to commit subversion" as was the Australian Gordon Ng who was sentenced to seven years in jail.
A Hong Kong man has been sentenced to 14 months in jail for wearing a T-shirt sporting the phrase "Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our times". He was also wearing a mask that read "FDNOL" - initials for another slogan, "Five demands, not one less".
So there is your “Free”, “Uncensored” East.
See you in 8 hours for my:
Free Friends Forum 40—J’ACCUSE Western Intellectuals Aka “Political Pilgrims” Exhibiting their Double Standards Moral Schizophrenia
You have NO Moral Integrity when you rightly and morally condemn the U.S. government’s Crimes Against Humanity then horribly and immorally aid and abet China’s CCP’s Crimes Against Humanity
You can make your case there as I will make mine, let the truth decide.
Jack Carney is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
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Hrvoje, it seems you have not checked your guest's anti-freedom, pro-tyranny position as a “Western Dissident”? I refer to Thorsten’s article by Frans Vandenbosch he posted praising the CCP.
THE WORLD'S TOP DISSIDENTS (IN 2025). MOST HAIL FROM THE WEST APPARENTLY. Thorsten J. Pattberg, PhD Mar 26, 2025
“Whistle-Blowers, Dissidents, and Exiles Fighting for Free Speech”
By Frans Vandenbosch 方腾波 26.03.2025 The long list of refugees, people who have fled their country and living abroad in voluntary exile.
https://thorstenjpattberg.substack.com/p/the-worlds-top-dissidents-in-2025
NO, THORSTEN AND FRANS, APPARENTLY NOT.
MOST OF THE WORLD’S TOP (and bottom as the case may be) DISSIDENTS IN 2025 HAIL FROM THE EAST--CHINA & HONG KONG.
So Hrvoje, I hope you will join Thorsten and Frans and Jeff--you are invited to our:
Free Friends Forum 40—J’ACCUSE Western Intellectuals Aka “Political Pilgrims” Exhibiting their Double Standards Moral Schizophrenia
You have NO Moral Integrity when you rightly and morally condemn the U.S. government’s Crimes Against Humanity then horribly and immorally aid and abet China’s CCP’s Crimes Against Humanity
Substack
https://responsiblyfree.substack.com/p/free-friends-forum-40jaccuse-western
You can tell us what you “Dissidents” will say when face to face with Sophie Luo about the imprisonment and torture of her husband, human rights lawyer, Ding Jiaxi still continuing in China?
Here is our Zoom and times, hope to see you—sorry for short notice
JOIN OUR FREE FRIENDS FORUM FOR A SPIRITED DISCUSSION
Saturday, April 19, 9PM (for South Pacific & Asia);
Sunday, April 20, 9AM (for U.S., S. America, Europe) —Note: New Zealand time
Jack Carney is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
Join Zoom Meeting
https://us06web.zoom.us/j/8245320024
Meeting ID: 824 532 0024
Passcode: 772388
New Zealand Time Converter
https://dateful.com/convert/new-zealand
Personal World Clock tinyurl.com/bdef97z7
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