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We are sinners. Period. God has provided a means of forgiveness through Jesus Christ. Western civilization stood because it was based, albeit imperfectly in the extreme, on Christianity. It was not built on paganism, it was not built on Gnosticism, and now, because we no longer worship our Creator, it no longer stands at all. When we worship ourselves, we worship a moral failure and a fool. You can't spiritualize quantum mechanics just because you don't understand it. We do not control external events with our minds. We are not nascent gods. We do not have so much as a spark of the divine within us - no, not a trace. We are not light beings. There is no such thing as an intelligent plasma cloud. Get a grip, people.

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totally agree that nanowars are ongoing and we don't have an exit ramp unless ...we get help from a larger intelligent plasma entity that have been on earth forever.

read robert temple, "new science of heaven" to understand intelligent plasma clouds that exist between earth and the moon. unfortunately, these beings are 'gods' of ancient myths and have good and bad elements that work with elites and intelligent machines on earth. this is where the control of humanity rests.

http://newscienceofheaven.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4_l56FYfrk

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Not sure your guest knows many lifelong pagans...nothing about modifying humanity is in line with this pagans beliefs. I have never met a pagan who approves of transhumanism, and I know quite a few.

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