Justino Carneiro discusses the science of conspirology and the Orthodox perspective on the global elite, geopolitical dynamics, the budding technocracy, and practical as well as spiritual solutions to our troubles.
Egging it on @17:30 As Voegelin said, Don't Immanentize the Eschaton!
Gnosticism is the opposite of the Old Testament. Or maybe, the Old Testament is a warning against gnosticism and its inevitable outcomes. Kinda like human nature taken to it's logical conclusion. A continual cycle of subjugation and freedom and what this means in terms of an arms war.
Great discussion. In my view, there can be no true freedom without response-ability. Freedom will always be tyranny when personal responsibility is abhorrent to it. You can see that as the nature of corruption. When power has freedom but no accountability it has no soul. It crushes souls. This is why God reveals our sin to us through the law. Because we have to take full responsibility for our own choices. Only children refuse to do so, and thus they become subject to corruption. In the garden Adam blamed his wife, Eve blamed the serpent. Cain the first freemason didn't even try to excuse his sin, he was too arrogant to try. Humility and true living power begins with responsibility.
"Whoever would be first among you must be your slave, even as the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
Also, since 2012 I have been in state exile. No documents after a fire. You have to have them to get them. It's technocratic exile. And it's rough. This is what they do to people who fight the system. Total lockout.
I shouldn't be surprised to see Christianity and Islam openly hating and maligning Israel, knowing that Bible prophecy says all nations will gather together against Israel and will divide the land of Israel, but I am surprised at many individual christians who oppose Israel.
This is a quote from a recent e-mail from Hope for Israel:
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan escalated his anti-Israel rhetoric on Sunday, calling for the destruction of the State of Israel during a speech at a mosque marking the end of Ramadan. "May Allah destroy the Zionist Israel for His sacred name," Erdogan declared.
"We must see what is happening in Palestine.
Therefore, we must unite, be strong, and be brothers here. May Allah always strengthen our unity."
The inflammatory comments come amid ongoing regional turmoil and the deepening diplomatic rift between Ankara and Jerusalem.
Erdogan's statements follow months of increasingly hostile rhetoric and the formal severing of diplomatic ties in protest over Israel's military campaign against Hamas in Gaza.
Erdogan's remarks, delivered in a religious setting and broadcast to a wide audience, are a stark reflection of his government's alignment with Hamas and broader Islamist movements, as well as his attempt to position himself as a leading voice in the Muslim world against Israel.
The Turkish president's words have been met with concern in Western capitals as well, given Turkey's NATO membership and its strategic position in the Middle East. The growing extremism in Erdogan's public discourse threatens not only Israel-Turkey relations, but broader regional stability.
From an Orthodox and early church perspective (and including trad Catholics), Israel refers to The Church of Christ, not the actual geographical state of Israel.
Yes. Sadly it is true that Christians that believe in replacement theology redefine words to put them in when God’s Word does not. They have to change the words or redefine them to find themselves in places where they don’t exist.
An excellent book on this topic is Copernicus and the Jews: The Separation of Church and Faith by Daniel Gruber. He is not just the author of some books I have read, but someone I have known for many years and who I highly respect.
A teaser quote from the book:
“It was the best of religions; it was the worst of religions. It brought life, love, and compassion to a dark and cruel world. It also brought torture, repression, ignorance, slavery, and death to an innocent world. It burned with Light and Truth. It also burned the Bible and those who believed it.
“Those who adhered to it built universities, hospitals, and orphanages. They also justified poverty, exploitation, war, and conquest. They brought food to the hungry, medicine to the sick, work to the destitute, and hope to the hopeless. They filled the earth with contempt for man, contempt for God's creation, and contempt for God.
“What is this thing called ‘Christianity’? The Bible does not tell us. The Bible talks about something else.”
Copernicus and the Jews: The Separation of Church and Faith (page 186) by Daniel Gruber
One can choose to accept or reject the views of scripture by those most closely connected to Christ and the apostles (and those responsible for bringing scripture together via the Bible) or not, in terms of their teachings of Christ fulfilling the Old Testament; there being neither Jew, Greek, nor gentile, and The Church being Christ’s bride when He returns as part of a heavenly kingdom…
There are no testaments in the Bible. Not an old one, not a new one. That is a mistranslation from the Greek into Latin, which was carried over into other languages including English. The word is brit (Hebrew), translated in the Septuagint as diatheke (Greek), and incorrectly translated into Latin as testamentum, which error was then perpetuated in many other languages. The most correct English word would be covenant. The new covenant is found in Tanach, in Jeremiah 31:31-34
To see the continuous, seamless revelation, many words mistranslated into English from the Jewish Greek writings (via Latin) need to be corrected. What was prophesied in Tanach was a Messiah, so it is a Messiah that will fulfill those prophesies, not an appropriated Greek word that is then transliterated into English. (More on this below.)
There is no “church” in the Bible. There is no word that the Greeks or Hebrews had that could be translated as “church.” From the Septuagint translation, we can find how to translate many words in the Messianic Writings (incorrectly designated as the “New Testament”). The Hebrew words “kahal” and “edah” were translated into Greek as “sunagoge” and “ekklesia.” The Greeks knew nothing of “church.” Yeshua did not start something different. He did not start “the church.” He brought to fullness what was prophesied. A continuation, a fulfillment, of Tanach.
The Greek word “christos” meant smeared with oil, like a leather shield being smeared with oil to keep it supple. In the Septuagint, the word was appropriated to describe “anointed.” The Greeks had no word for Messiah and no concept for being anointed, so the translators chose a word that had some connection to what they were trying to describe and represent. The word they selected stood in to represent the Hebrew biblical concept the best they could find in a language and culture that had no such idea. The Greek word was not intended to replace the original word or concept. Ideally, translators would go to the original, true word and translate from that, rather than re-translating from a language that didn’t truly represent the original. In other words, knowing that “christos” stood for “messiah” or “anointed one,” those translating into other languages should have translated from the original Hebrew/Jewish reality instead of transliterating a Greek word that had no inherent meaning.
There is also no word “Christian” in the Messianic Writings. The use of the Greek word “christos” to represent Messiah/anointed one was confusing to Greek speakers. The Greeks, trying to make sense of this word began calling the followers of Messiah, “chrestians,” thinking they must be followers of some man named Chrestus - a name they were familiar with. This is the conclusion that even Christian biblical scholars have come to. The word found 3 times in the Messianic Writings should be “chrestians.” It was a slur, and not something the followers of Yeshua called themselves. They were talmidim/learners/followers/disciples.
Romans says that Gentiles must be grafted in to Israel’s olive tree. They must believe that the Messiah promised to Israel is the culmination of what the Jewish prophets foretold. God‘a promises to Israel will be fulfilled. He has, in His mercy and grace, welcomed Gentiles if they will submit to/believe in the God of Israel (that is how he predominately identifies Himself through His prophets), the Word of God, the Son/Messiah of God. Denying God’s clear promises to Israel is a serious problem.
In Matthew we read that we are to pray that God’s kingdom will come to earth - that His will will be done on earth as it already is done in heaven. Revelation 3:12, Revelation 21:10-12, and other passages explain that the Messiah will reign on the earth in a heavenly Jerusalem that comes down to earth from heaven.
If you are really interested in this topic, I highly recommend the book The Separation of Church and Faith: Copernicus and the Jews by Daniel Gruber. In fact, if you are in the States, if you supply me an address - it doesn’t have to be YOUR address, just an address where you can receive a USPS media mail package - I will send you a copy of this book, if you will read it. My website is thelilacdragonfly.wixsite.com/home and you can send an e-mail on my contact page. I have offered to send one to Hrvoje, but he hasn’t taken me up on it. I have given away many copies, not because I can afford it, but because I believe in God and the Truth of His Word, and I am willing to sacrifice to share it.
Interesting and respectful conversation. Although some of it was philosophically over my head and I didn’t agree with everything, it was a good talk. :)
Interesting explanation about voting. I feel bad not voting at all, but for the past 30 years, my vote for president has been for someone who “couldn’t win” - third party or write-in candidates. I vote for my local state representative, who I know personally, but I also know - from the horse’s mouth - that I disagree with how things are done to get “good” bills passed - deals made, pork barrel bills…. It’s such a mess.
A better translation of what is usually called the “Antichrist” is “false Messiah.” This entity will convince Israel and the world/Gentiles that he is the savior/rescuer/messiah and most of humanity will believe him.
Also, he talks about prophecy, but differently than I’ve ever heard it before. Who are the “saints” whose prophecies he references and what are the prophecies? The prophecies I’m familiar with are all given by Jewish men in the Jewish scriptures - tanach and The Messianic Writings - and most are in reference to Israel, the Jewish Messiah, and God’s promises regarding the land and people of Israel.
How does a person’s stance on “Zionism” determine how he categorizes people when Zion has such an important place in biblical prophecy?
As an Orthodox Christian, I returned to this podcast to read the comments. If I’m not mistaken, he was likely referring to more recent saints of the Orthodox Church, such as Sts. Paisios, Nektarious, and Porphyrios. World War Now (in Substack) integrates a lot of the prophesies in their worldwide analysis.
Those who do not THINK (as opposed to 'BELIEVE') that there are NO 'space aliens', are actually DENYING GOD. How 'holier than thou' to 'BELIEVE' that we humans are THEE ONLY Beings in our Solar System/Universe! THAT is just an INSANE 'belief system'!
All one has to do is LOOK at what's on the Moon, Mars and other planets; ANCIENT RUINS.
'WE' Humans have been 'here' for MILLIONS of years.
THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN!
'We' have also 'been here before'.
We get to a certain Psychopathic Technological point.....and by the time the Psychopaths, that run the world, GET TO that point, everything 'RE-SETS', again.
Via a NORMAL, NATURAL Cycle; Earth/Our Solar System goes through these 'Cycles of Change', and we (here on Earth) experience MASSIVE Earth changes, that wipe out almost all things on this planet. The 'Technocrats' ALSO have to 'start from scratch'......which is why it takes them so long to GET BACK TO their Psychopathic Technological 'rule the world' bullshit.
The next MASSIVE EARTH CHANGES 're-set' is coming (which is WHY 'they' are in such a 'hurry' to 'lockdown' the planet)........around 2040!
And THAT is what people need to be 'prepping' for!
Justino! So good to see you again, brother! And like this! What a treat!
Egging it on @17:30 As Voegelin said, Don't Immanentize the Eschaton!
Gnosticism is the opposite of the Old Testament. Or maybe, the Old Testament is a warning against gnosticism and its inevitable outcomes. Kinda like human nature taken to it's logical conclusion. A continual cycle of subjugation and freedom and what this means in terms of an arms war.
Top notch conversation!! Such a blessing to be able to listen to yall!
I’m just over halfway through, but if I don’t jot thoughts down along the way, I’ll forget them…
There are two books I think both of you would find interesting.
Orthodox Russia in Crisis by Isaiah Gruber (about Russia in the Time of Trouble)
Law Without Authority or Limits: Kelsen’s Dilemma by Daniel Gruber (philosophy, theology/Bible, geopolitics, legal theory all in one book).
Great discussion. In my view, there can be no true freedom without response-ability. Freedom will always be tyranny when personal responsibility is abhorrent to it. You can see that as the nature of corruption. When power has freedom but no accountability it has no soul. It crushes souls. This is why God reveals our sin to us through the law. Because we have to take full responsibility for our own choices. Only children refuse to do so, and thus they become subject to corruption. In the garden Adam blamed his wife, Eve blamed the serpent. Cain the first freemason didn't even try to excuse his sin, he was too arrogant to try. Humility and true living power begins with responsibility.
"Whoever would be first among you must be your slave, even as the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
- Matthew 20:26
Also, since 2012 I have been in state exile. No documents after a fire. You have to have them to get them. It's technocratic exile. And it's rough. This is what they do to people who fight the system. Total lockout.
I shouldn't be surprised to see Christianity and Islam openly hating and maligning Israel, knowing that Bible prophecy says all nations will gather together against Israel and will divide the land of Israel, but I am surprised at many individual christians who oppose Israel.
This is a quote from a recent e-mail from Hope for Israel:
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan escalated his anti-Israel rhetoric on Sunday, calling for the destruction of the State of Israel during a speech at a mosque marking the end of Ramadan. "May Allah destroy the Zionist Israel for His sacred name," Erdogan declared.
"We must see what is happening in Palestine.
Therefore, we must unite, be strong, and be brothers here. May Allah always strengthen our unity."
The inflammatory comments come amid ongoing regional turmoil and the deepening diplomatic rift between Ankara and Jerusalem.
Erdogan's statements follow months of increasingly hostile rhetoric and the formal severing of diplomatic ties in protest over Israel's military campaign against Hamas in Gaza.
Erdogan's remarks, delivered in a religious setting and broadcast to a wide audience, are a stark reflection of his government's alignment with Hamas and broader Islamist movements, as well as his attempt to position himself as a leading voice in the Muslim world against Israel.
The Turkish president's words have been met with concern in Western capitals as well, given Turkey's NATO membership and its strategic position in the Middle East. The growing extremism in Erdogan's public discourse threatens not only Israel-Turkey relations, but broader regional stability.
From an Orthodox and early church perspective (and including trad Catholics), Israel refers to The Church of Christ, not the actual geographical state of Israel.
Yes. Sadly it is true that Christians that believe in replacement theology redefine words to put them in when God’s Word does not. They have to change the words or redefine them to find themselves in places where they don’t exist.
An excellent book on this topic is Copernicus and the Jews: The Separation of Church and Faith by Daniel Gruber. He is not just the author of some books I have read, but someone I have known for many years and who I highly respect.
A teaser quote from the book:
“It was the best of religions; it was the worst of religions. It brought life, love, and compassion to a dark and cruel world. It also brought torture, repression, ignorance, slavery, and death to an innocent world. It burned with Light and Truth. It also burned the Bible and those who believed it.
“Those who adhered to it built universities, hospitals, and orphanages. They also justified poverty, exploitation, war, and conquest. They brought food to the hungry, medicine to the sick, work to the destitute, and hope to the hopeless. They filled the earth with contempt for man, contempt for God's creation, and contempt for God.
“What is this thing called ‘Christianity’? The Bible does not tell us. The Bible talks about something else.”
Copernicus and the Jews: The Separation of Church and Faith (page 186) by Daniel Gruber
One can choose to accept or reject the views of scripture by those most closely connected to Christ and the apostles (and those responsible for bringing scripture together via the Bible) or not, in terms of their teachings of Christ fulfilling the Old Testament; there being neither Jew, Greek, nor gentile, and The Church being Christ’s bride when He returns as part of a heavenly kingdom…
There are no testaments in the Bible. Not an old one, not a new one. That is a mistranslation from the Greek into Latin, which was carried over into other languages including English. The word is brit (Hebrew), translated in the Septuagint as diatheke (Greek), and incorrectly translated into Latin as testamentum, which error was then perpetuated in many other languages. The most correct English word would be covenant. The new covenant is found in Tanach, in Jeremiah 31:31-34
To see the continuous, seamless revelation, many words mistranslated into English from the Jewish Greek writings (via Latin) need to be corrected. What was prophesied in Tanach was a Messiah, so it is a Messiah that will fulfill those prophesies, not an appropriated Greek word that is then transliterated into English. (More on this below.)
There is no “church” in the Bible. There is no word that the Greeks or Hebrews had that could be translated as “church.” From the Septuagint translation, we can find how to translate many words in the Messianic Writings (incorrectly designated as the “New Testament”). The Hebrew words “kahal” and “edah” were translated into Greek as “sunagoge” and “ekklesia.” The Greeks knew nothing of “church.” Yeshua did not start something different. He did not start “the church.” He brought to fullness what was prophesied. A continuation, a fulfillment, of Tanach.
The Greek word “christos” meant smeared with oil, like a leather shield being smeared with oil to keep it supple. In the Septuagint, the word was appropriated to describe “anointed.” The Greeks had no word for Messiah and no concept for being anointed, so the translators chose a word that had some connection to what they were trying to describe and represent. The word they selected stood in to represent the Hebrew biblical concept the best they could find in a language and culture that had no such idea. The Greek word was not intended to replace the original word or concept. Ideally, translators would go to the original, true word and translate from that, rather than re-translating from a language that didn’t truly represent the original. In other words, knowing that “christos” stood for “messiah” or “anointed one,” those translating into other languages should have translated from the original Hebrew/Jewish reality instead of transliterating a Greek word that had no inherent meaning.
There is also no word “Christian” in the Messianic Writings. The use of the Greek word “christos” to represent Messiah/anointed one was confusing to Greek speakers. The Greeks, trying to make sense of this word began calling the followers of Messiah, “chrestians,” thinking they must be followers of some man named Chrestus - a name they were familiar with. This is the conclusion that even Christian biblical scholars have come to. The word found 3 times in the Messianic Writings should be “chrestians.” It was a slur, and not something the followers of Yeshua called themselves. They were talmidim/learners/followers/disciples.
Romans says that Gentiles must be grafted in to Israel’s olive tree. They must believe that the Messiah promised to Israel is the culmination of what the Jewish prophets foretold. God‘a promises to Israel will be fulfilled. He has, in His mercy and grace, welcomed Gentiles if they will submit to/believe in the God of Israel (that is how he predominately identifies Himself through His prophets), the Word of God, the Son/Messiah of God. Denying God’s clear promises to Israel is a serious problem.
In Matthew we read that we are to pray that God’s kingdom will come to earth - that His will will be done on earth as it already is done in heaven. Revelation 3:12, Revelation 21:10-12, and other passages explain that the Messiah will reign on the earth in a heavenly Jerusalem that comes down to earth from heaven.
If you are really interested in this topic, I highly recommend the book The Separation of Church and Faith: Copernicus and the Jews by Daniel Gruber. In fact, if you are in the States, if you supply me an address - it doesn’t have to be YOUR address, just an address where you can receive a USPS media mail package - I will send you a copy of this book, if you will read it. My website is thelilacdragonfly.wixsite.com/home and you can send an e-mail on my contact page. I have offered to send one to Hrvoje, but he hasn’t taken me up on it. I have given away many copies, not because I can afford it, but because I believe in God and the Truth of His Word, and I am willing to sacrifice to share it.
Interesting and respectful conversation. Although some of it was philosophically over my head and I didn’t agree with everything, it was a good talk. :)
Interesting explanation about voting. I feel bad not voting at all, but for the past 30 years, my vote for president has been for someone who “couldn’t win” - third party or write-in candidates. I vote for my local state representative, who I know personally, but I also know - from the horse’s mouth - that I disagree with how things are done to get “good” bills passed - deals made, pork barrel bills…. It’s such a mess.
A better translation of what is usually called the “Antichrist” is “false Messiah.” This entity will convince Israel and the world/Gentiles that he is the savior/rescuer/messiah and most of humanity will believe him.
Alien Invasion is a book and there is also a DVD by the same title. It’s available online. Highly recommended.
I’m wondering how Justino defines “Zionism.”
Also, he talks about prophecy, but differently than I’ve ever heard it before. Who are the “saints” whose prophecies he references and what are the prophecies? The prophecies I’m familiar with are all given by Jewish men in the Jewish scriptures - tanach and The Messianic Writings - and most are in reference to Israel, the Jewish Messiah, and God’s promises regarding the land and people of Israel.
How does a person’s stance on “Zionism” determine how he categorizes people when Zion has such an important place in biblical prophecy?
As an Orthodox Christian, I returned to this podcast to read the comments. If I’m not mistaken, he was likely referring to more recent saints of the Orthodox Church, such as Sts. Paisios, Nektarious, and Porphyrios. World War Now (in Substack) integrates a lot of the prophesies in their worldwide analysis.
You're 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater', when you rattled off the 'alien' stuff.
Yes; some ARE PsyOps!
Space Aliens did NOT 'create' Humans; they GMO'd us, at one point in time!
It states this, not only in the bible, but every other Ancient Texts/Traditions.
(SEE: Dr. Joseph P. Farrell, who is also an Eastern Orthodox Christian!! https://gizadeathstar.com/about/ )
Those who do not THINK (as opposed to 'BELIEVE') that there are NO 'space aliens', are actually DENYING GOD. How 'holier than thou' to 'BELIEVE' that we humans are THEE ONLY Beings in our Solar System/Universe! THAT is just an INSANE 'belief system'!
All one has to do is LOOK at what's on the Moon, Mars and other planets; ANCIENT RUINS.
'WE' Humans have been 'here' for MILLIONS of years.
THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN!
'We' have also 'been here before'.
We get to a certain Psychopathic Technological point.....and by the time the Psychopaths, that run the world, GET TO that point, everything 'RE-SETS', again.
Via a NORMAL, NATURAL Cycle; Earth/Our Solar System goes through these 'Cycles of Change', and we (here on Earth) experience MASSIVE Earth changes, that wipe out almost all things on this planet. The 'Technocrats' ALSO have to 'start from scratch'......which is why it takes them so long to GET BACK TO their Psychopathic Technological 'rule the world' bullshit.
The next MASSIVE EARTH CHANGES 're-set' is coming (which is WHY 'they' are in such a 'hurry' to 'lockdown' the planet)........around 2040!
And THAT is what people need to be 'prepping' for!
'LIBERTY/FREEDOM FIRST'.
This is NOT an 'anything goes' concept.
Liberty/Freedom WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES of the 'LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE' (or, GODS LAWS, if you will).
So, mindless zombies need to STOP 'screaming' the 'democracy' bullshit, and START 'screaming' LIBERTY & FREEDOM!
As it is said......'With Freedom/Liberty.....comes RESPONSIBILITY!'.